Podcast
Grow with the Flo
Behind the Episode
A solo episode — on anxiety, avoidance, and the long way back to freedom

From
stuck
to free

A solo episode — Florian Hohenleitner · Grow with the Flo

This is the episode I wasn't sure I'd ever make. Not because the story isn't worth telling — but because I had to live most of it before I understood it enough to speak about it honestly.

Read the companion

The life that got smaller and smaller

Anxiety doesn't announce itself. It moves in quietly — one small avoidance at a time, one choice to stay close to home, one excuse that feels completely reasonable in the moment. By the time I noticed how small my world had become, it had been shrinking for years.

For me, it was toilet anxiety. The specific, particular, almost absurdly named fear of being somewhere without access to a bathroom — or of needing one and not making it. On the surface it sounds manageable. Embarrassing, maybe, but manageable. That's what I told myself. And that gap between what anxiety sounds like from the outside and what it feels like from the inside is exactly what I wanted to close with this episode.

In practice, it meant planning every journey around toilet locations. Turning down invitations. Sitting near exits. Leaving before I had to, arriving late after I'd already checked. Eating in particular ways before particular events. Carrying certainty in the form of routines that got more elaborate, not less, the longer I lived with this.

Early on
The first avoidance
It starts with one "just in case" decision. A route home that passes a bathroom. A seat chosen for its proximity to the exit. It feels like common sense. It feels like taking care of yourself. You don't yet know it's teaching your nervous system that danger is real.
Peak
The world at its smallest
Long train journeys became ordeals. Flights required days of preparation. Restaurants needed to be scoped in advance. Nothing spontaneous. Nothing unplanned. Every yes came with a checklist running underneath it — and most invitations quietly got a no.
The cost
What anxiety actually took from me
Not just logistics. Ease. The ability to be present without calculating. The lightness of going somewhere without it meaning something. Relationships strained by explanations I couldn't fully give. A version of myself I'd lost access to.

How anxiety learns to keep you safe

The cruelest thing about anxiety is that avoidance feels like the solution. Every time you sidestep the feared situation, you get immediate relief. And your nervous system files that away as evidence: the threat was real, and you survived because you avoided it.

The avoidance loop
You avoid. You feel relief. The relief reinforces the avoidance. The next time, the anxiety is slightly bigger because the world has confirmed that the thing you avoided was worth avoiding. The loop tightens. The window of what feels safe gets narrower. And you keep moving within it, calling it management, calling it self-knowledge, calling it anything except what it is: a life that is shrinking.

The anxiety was also doing something subtler: it was making me hypervigilant to my own body. Every sensation became data. Every twinge, every shift in digestion, every moment of physical discomfort got tagged immediately as a potential emergency. The nervous system that was supposed to protect me had become the loudest thing in the room.

And the more I listened to it, the louder it got.

"

Anxiety is not lying to you. It genuinely believes the threat is real. The problem is, it learned the wrong lesson — and it's been applying it ever since.

— Flo · Grow with the Flo

The things that kept me stuck

I tried a lot. Most of it kept me stuck because it was oriented around managing the anxiety rather than working through it. There's a big difference.

Tactic 01
Information and preparation
Researching every venue. Knowing where bathrooms were before arriving. This felt like problem-solving. It was actually just sophisticated avoidance — it reduced the anxiety short-term and confirmed it long-term.
Tactic 02
Willpower and distraction
Pushing through while trying not to think about it. Forcing yourself into situations and white-knuckling through. Sometimes it worked in the moment. But it didn't change anything underneath — and the relief of surviving never felt as good as the fear felt bad.
Tactic 03
Talking about it as a problem to solve
I could intellectualise the anxiety clearly. I knew where it came from. I understood the mechanics. And I was still stuck. Understanding is not the same as healing. The knowledge lived in my head; the anxiety lived in my body.

Not pushing through. Moving toward.

The shift came not from finding a better coping strategy, but from changing the relationship with the anxiety itself. From fighting it to — slowly, imperfectly — allowing it.

Exposure — but not the brutal kind
Gradual, intentional exposure to the feared situations — starting small, building slowly. Not proving the anxiety wrong through force, but giving the nervous system evidence through experience. The difference matters. One is combat. The other is learning. And the nervous system learns from lived experience, not from logic.
The body, not just the mind
Breathwork. Movement. Cold water. Yoga — not as exercise, but as practice in inhabiting my own body without running from what I found there. The anxiety lived in my body; the healing had to meet it there. Regulation before reasoning. Signal before story.
Saying it out loud
Something happened when I started talking about it honestly — first with people I trusted, then in this episode. Shame feeds on silence. Anxiety that stays unnamed stays enormous. When I said it out loud — the actual specific thing, without softening it — it lost some of its power. Not all of it. But enough to move.
"

The opposite of anxiety isn't calm. It's presence. The ability to be fully in a moment without cataloguing everything that could go wrong.

— Flo · Grow with the Flo

Not cured. Free.

Freedom from anxiety, I've learned, doesn't mean the absence of the feeling. It means the feeling no longer runs your life. That's a different finish line than the one I started with — and a better one.

I travel now. Long flights. Journeys without plans. Restaurants chosen on a whim, trains without reserved seats. Not because the anxiety is gone, but because I have a different relationship with it. It still shows up. I've just stopped giving it the keys.

I moved to Vietnam. I taught yoga. I started a podcast. I had conversations on planes with strangers that changed my life. None of that was available to the version of me who was managing his anxiety by making his world smaller.

The version of me who made this episode isn't some polished, arrived-at-a-destination version. He's someone who learned — slowly, through a lot of mistakes — that the things he was avoiding were often exactly where the life he wanted was waiting.

What I know now that I didn't know then
Avoidance is not self-care. The nervous system needs evidence that the feared situation is survivable — and the only way to collect that evidence is to enter the situation. Gently. Repeatedly. With support, if you need it. But you have to go. No amount of preparation, understanding, or willpower gets you there from the outside. The door only opens from the inside.

If you're still in the middle of it

This section is for anyone who recognised themselves somewhere in this episode — and felt both relieved and exhausted by that recognition.

If you're currently in the middle of this — whatever your version of it looks like — I want to say something that I needed to hear and didn't hear enough: you are not broken. The anxiety is not evidence of weakness. It is evidence of a nervous system doing exactly what it was designed to do, in response to something that felt dangerous, probably a long time ago.

The thing it learned was wrong. But it learned it from something real. And there is a way through — not around, through — that doesn't require you to be braver than you are right now, or to have more information, or to figure it out on your own.

First
Name it — out loud, to someone
Not the sanitised version. The actual specific thing. Shame and secrecy make anxiety larger. Speaking it makes it workable. Find one person and say the real thing.
Second
Get support — professional if you can
CBT, ACT, somatic therapy. These work. Not because they're magic, but because they give you a structure for the work your nervous system needs to do. You don't have to figure out the method alone.
Third
Move toward, not away
Start smaller than you think. One situation. One degree of difficulty above where you are now. Do it enough times that your nervous system gets the data it needs: I survived. It was okay. I can do this.
"

You don't have to want to do the thing. You just have to do it. The wanting comes after — sometimes long after — but it comes.

— Flo · Grow with the Flo
The GwtF closing · Flo's answer
"The life I wanted was always on the other side of the thing I was avoiding. I just had to stay in it long enough to find out what was actually there — which turned out to be less terrifying, and much more alive, than anything I imagined."
— Flo · Grow with the Flo · Episode 10